What science tells us about the afterlife. German Bernd Grotsch's body was found at his home deep in the jungle in the Mae Haad part of Koh Tao. September 15: The semi-naked bodies of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller are discovered between 5am and 6am on Sairee Beach in Koh Tao on September 15. Thai police efforts are blasted a 'joke' by residents as officials admit they are looking for 'multiple' suspects but do not know how many. The investigation of the Witheridge and Miller slayings was widely criticized as the crime scene was not properly secured, and questions were also raised about subsequent DNA testing. I just warned that sometimes people have to be careful today Thailand is safe except there are some bad guys - like anywhere in the world.'. To think that the scum who tortured and murdered a child got off and were able to brag about it later is just unbelievable. There were TRACES of cocaine, but that didnt contributeit was a small amount from a day or more before. In September 2014, two European backpackers, Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found murdered on Sairee Beach on Thailand's island of Koh Tao. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. It is suggested David Miller was killed with a blunt piece of metal and not the rusty garden hoe first discovered at the scene and named as a murder weapon. The comments below have been moderated in advance. I'm not even following that rabbit hole because all I had to read was Porsche Girl, I've seen it before and it's bad Just to clarifyshe was NOT a dui. There have been suspicious reports of hand-sized bruises found on Lukes shoulders. Interactive map reveals when you may see SNOW, Kate Garraway reveals Derek's heartbreaking words when they thought he had just minutes left to live. I went in blind when it first was releasedhad nightmares for days afterward. Suter had been a regular snorkeler and his death was totally unexplained. Pol Maj Gen Pornchai Sutheerakhun, director of the Institute of Forensic Science at Police General Hospital in Bangkok, said There were wounds around the neck due to the hanging and some non-fatal bruises in the head, and no drugs were found in the body. 'I didn't intend to insult or criticise anyone. The family claimed the circumstances surrounding his death and the local police's refusal to co-operate with them have led them to believe the death is "suspicious". by potty Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:29 am, Post While police ruled out foul play, Nick's family, who say officers did not investigate a single witness, believe he was murdered. Read about our approach to external linking. She was dedicated, ambitious and would have made an amazing difference to the lives of many families through her chosen career as a Speech and Language Therapist. Elise's mother Michele van Egten says she does not believe the Thai police's version of events amid fears authorities are working to suppress speculation about the many murders on the island. It's GRAYGATE! Christopher and James Ware were stopped at Suvarnabhumi International airport on their way back to Britain for questioning. Bernds family in Ingolstadt, Germany, said that the authorities told them he had died of heart failure or had been bitten by a snake. Ms Horton, from Cardiff, was attacked by two Thai fishermen, Bualoi Posit, 23, and Wichai Somkhaoyai, 24, who had spent the evening drinking and swam ashore after watching porn. She was also part of the Sathya Sai Baba cult and lived with a self-proclaimed 'guru'. The bodies of Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Hemsby, and David Miller, 24, from Jersey, were found on a Koh Tao beach. Have a story or an anonymous news tip for CEO? Pictures of Thai murder victim Hannah Witheridge's body circulate on This is not for the faint hearted but as you are studying the subject, Im sure you will be fine. True Crime in the Outdoors - StrangeOutdoors.com Bernd's cousin Christina said: ''We cannot accept what the Thai authorities on the island are telling us. September 18: Police claim DNA from two men alongside that of Miss Witheridge has been discovered on a cigarette butt 50 yards from where the 23-year-old's body was found. Andrew Rosindell, a member of the Commons foreign affairs committee, said: 'What is most worrying about these comments is the underlying implication about those who have been murdered that they have somehow brought it upon themselves.'. The governor of the island said he had instructed the district chief to file criminal charges against the local online news outlet Samui Times in 2017 after it ran an article that questioned the police account of deaths and referred to Koh Tao as Death Island. Prior to your posting to Thailand you must have received a report of this country in terms of its corruption, poverty, murder and crime rates. Yikes. Her mother, Michele claimed that Elise used a fake name of 'Elise Dubuis' to check into the Triple B Bungalows next to Mae Head Pier on Koh Tao. Last month, the tragic revelation that backpackers Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Norfolk and David Miller, 24, from Jersey had been murdered on the holiday island of Koh Tao shook the world. However, it did not match any of their DNA records. But, he said that most of these would have been present prior to his death, although he could not completely rule out the possibility that Nick had been attacked. Only if they are not beautiful. He later apologized, saying that he meant only that foreign visitors should be careful. 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Doubts lingered over the conviction of two migrant Burmese workers for the rape and murders, Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo (also known as Win Zaw Htun). Read about our approach to external linking. Ahead of Hannah's funeral on Friday, her family have released a heart-breaking statement. We admit that in the past, there was a mafia there that took advantage of tourists. Their bodies were found at 6am. After you reached Thailand and began your job I am certain that you would have explored Thailand and realized that what you saw in the streets and other parts of Thailand matches what was mentioned in the . The last pictures - on night backpackers beaten to death: New CCTV revealed as Thai police investigate copycat killing theory. A few days later, staff checked her room to discover her mobile phone, passport and camera had all been left behind. 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The fact that there are a lot of people out there who still somehow defend them is even more unbelievable. Belgian backpacker Elise Dallemagne, 30, was found hanging from a tree on April 27, 2017. Nick's mother Tracy Pearson, told Derby and South Derbyshire Coroner's Court in the U.K., she had "a gut feeling there was foul play". Replies analysing and speculating over the mystery and possible explanations are encouraged. Not so shipshape! The men who killed Till were not mentally ill and they were not penalized or ostracized for their actions. Or is Koh Tao just unlucky for visitors or is there something more sinister happening on the beautiful Thai island and haven for Scuba divers? Miss Witheridge's family said "senseless" photos of the crime scene had added to their agony. Pol Lt Gen Thanate Pinmuangngam, acting chief of Police Region 8, said In the Dallemagne case, the cause of death was suffocation. They were arrested, confessed and given life sentences. Traumatizing. Deaths have been explained away by the authorities as unfortunate accidents or suicides. But they were found innocent by an all white jury. Hannah was a fun, vibrant and beautiful young woman who will be sorely missed by all who knew her. Thailand beach murders: Hannah Witheridge's family beg for removal of Thailand beach murders: Hannah Witheridge's family beg for removal of graphic crime scene images circulating online Photos showing the battered bodies of Hannah, 23, and David Miller, 24, emerged . Never seen anything like it': Medics and care workers hits back at Matt Hancock by revealing Rishi Sunak told Matt Hancock that Dominic Cummings' time in Downing Street was 'a nightmare', new WhatsApp Madonna's Skid Row brother: For years the superstar, 64, was accused of shunning him. If we haven't already, we should delete the crime scene photo previously posted in a "spoiler", out of respect to the family's wishes. An unexplained fire that evening burned down three bamboo huts, including the one Elise had been staying in. They did not seal the island, contaminated the crime scene and now have allowed these boats to get away. Frenchman, Dimitri Povse, 29, was found hanging from the beam of a rented house on January 1, 2015. Toxic trauma expert Gabor Mate diagnoses Prince Harry with attention deficit disorder but tells him it CAN 'I felt different to the rest of my family - and my mum felt the same': Prince Harry opens up on his 'broken 'He's completely beige drained of all his feisty ginger life-blood': JULIE BURCHILL'S verdict on Prince 'I was a bit of a mess': Amanda Abbington reveals she considered suicide after split from ex Martin Freeman DR ELLIE CANNON: My breast has not got lumps but it's itchy, should I be concerned about cancer at age 72? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. When will the Beast from the East be at YOUR door? "The past three weeks have been unimaginably difficult and there are no words that can adequately describe the heartache and despair that our family is experiencing. We are furious that we have not been able to have an approved independent forensic examination.". International experts criticized the DNA testing done by the hospital at the time with claims that samples were tampered with in order to falsely incriminate two Burmese workers. A local Western businessman though, who did not want to be named, criticised the police for allowing the boats to leave. Do you know this baby? Can they be safe in bikinis unless they are not beautiful?. An inquest had been held in 2014 as his death was being treated as suspicious.