They just end up in these places. Sam Evans-Brown has been working for New Hampshire Public Radio since 2010, when he began as a freelancer. I noticed it had a really big sweeping tail that kind of curled up behind it and all but still at that point because everyone says there's no mountain lions here. And so a mountain lion is actually quite large right. There's no attraction. Tate said that while a mountain lion sighting in New Hampshire isn't likely, it's not impossible. Sandy Hodskins, owner of West Meadow Farm in Bradford, New Hampshire, took time from shoveling Wednesday to enjoy the snow with her horse, West Wind. Known to exist in the state for over well over a hundred years. Well they are the same. It was some sort of a Lion Mountain Lion animal.
Think You Saw A Mountain Lion in N.H.? - New Hampshire Public Radio People go through great lengths to create hoaxes like this. It doesn't make much sense because you know mountain lions are as we as we said before.
Wildlife biologist breaks down mountain lion sightings in CT | New Early in the morning. Caller: I have yeah. There were several sightings in CT over the last few months. So it is possible to see male Mountain lions roam into the northeast - there was one hit by a car in CT a number of years back - but we don't have a breeding population of Mountain lions in New England. Have it reported down in the Keene area. Want to put this to to Patrick Tate who may have heard some some info or info from listeners like you about these these these cats. Peter Biello: Give us a call 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 you can also send us an email exchange at an HP morgue. Seems reasonable! So for those reasons I don't believe the standards are too high the amount of game cameras out on the landscape to record images department alone through contracts had over 150 throughout the state biologists go through various deer yards throughout the year. Thanks for taking my call. So for me as a person who's had the Bobcats right off my grits similar carries sticks to a bobcat The Long Tail obviously very different but those facial markings were overlapping for me. And you know all that. Caller: Yeah. I'm Peter Biello. The species that once inhabited the Northeast, known as the eastern mountain lion, is now extinct. You need a permit to have that. But if you were to get Western dispersing mountain lions just would just sort of expanding into New Hampshire. Tell us your story. From "History of New Hampshire Game and Furbearers" by Helenette Silver, Research Clerk, NH Fish and Game Dept. But if you do if you think you're looking at a wild Puma their tail is very thick and especially in the winter is very thick and ponderous looking. I have no doubt that there are mountain lion roaming New Hampshire. Peter Biello: Yeah some of what she was saying sounds like it would require getting pretty close or at least having a nice zoom lens right Sam like. M from Tree Hill author series presenting Diane lay back. m from a weed family Automotive on store Street in Concord is serving the Concord area families automotive needs since 1995. N.H.'s Fish and Game department says there's no proof.
Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction - YouTube The 17-year-old Kiger mustang mare was born in Bend, Oregon, said Hodskins, who got her . Okay. I tracked cats and all the western states. By Eric Orff. Part II. He studied Politics and Spanish at Bates College, and before reporting was variously employed as a Spanish teacher, farmer, bicycle mechanic, ski coach, research assistant, a wilderness trip leader and a technical supporter. Michael Brindley is our program manager our producers our Jessica Hunt and Christina Phillips and our theme music was composed by Bob Lord. They get a lot of media attention but compared to the the amount of times that a mountain lion could attack a person but doesn't because they don't typically view us as prey. Are there other powers that be worried that scary mountain lions will scare off people from camping in New Hampshire. What's going on. A lot of times. Peter Biello: And then it ran away okay. She is renowned for tracking. Residents Report Mountain Lion Sighting By Elysia Rodriguez Published August 11, 2015 A southern New Hampshire neighborhood believes a mountain lion is roaming the woods near their homes. Rick van de Poll: 80 90. Caller: It had just left that field and was out. www.wildlife.state.nh.us, Buy or Renew Your Saltwater Fishing License, Great Bay National Estuarine Research Reserve. Thanks for calling. You can see two of them at Squam Lakes Natural Science Center in Holderness NH. No that's a little bit outside the range. JavaScript must be enabled for some features to display properly. But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree. Join as a $8 per month sustainer and get our brand-new owl umbrella! Peter Biello: We at this e-mailed comment from Michael. The engineers Dan Colgan our senior producer is Allan Grimm. And the cougar embodies that. People were calling the New Hampshire Fish and Game director's office saying why are you dragging your feet on this. But you've done some reporting on this. Peter Biello: Well I want to ask Patrick about one of these stories a few years ago you had a story about someone who claimed to. Patrick Tate: I've had hunters hang deer carcasses forbidding wildlife entries. Think you've seen a mountain lion? So do they. I believe I saw one that's fine and I'm not looking for an immediate story. John is calling from Bennington. Mountain lions can be found throughout Arizona, and data suggests the populations are not only stable, but growing. The second story window through about 30 feet away from it. Which brings us to the next question, what are the odds that some of these reported sightings (which, when I posted about this on twitter, I immediately started to get as well) are actually people seeing a mountain lion? Incredible sighting and I called him the fish and game and they immediately sent me to a website to look at all the bobcat pictures. Me Im willing to believe its possible that there are some out there. Support for an age PR comes from you our listeners. They lived perhaps elsewhere in New England and they were just passing through and happened to have an encounter of some sort. I looked at the picture and asked me what do you see in the picture and I wrote back. Have you seen one. I've had a number of people call up and say I found a scout in the woods and I want it DNA identified. support for an HBO who comes from you our listener Sam from advanced in you a local New Hampshire nonprofit specializing in college student loans and student refinancing options. Why are there so many false positives? We had six copies printed out each. And the second question is this a behavior mountain lions exhibit. I would just suggest that in my experience as a reporter covering this covering this issue for a few years at least at what point do we reach a certain critical mass for lack of a better term of accounts where I'm not to suggest that you guys aren't taking this possibility seriously. So so do what you can get to do what you can to get proof. We're gonna talk about sightings in this part of the program as well we'd love to hear your story. So one thing I'd point out is we've been talking about situations with no evidence a number of them come in with photographs and yet what they fit what they description of the animal they saw and by the way I got a picture of what I saw. The trouble with accepting every reported sighting as a confirmed mountain lion is that there are so many mistaken identifications. Well just that I have evidence and it was not it was denied by fishing game at the time and I you know there's I don't need to prove to anybody that I saw one just like some of your callers said okay. But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree. However, dispersing western mountain lions have left evidence as close as Connecticut, Massachusetts and New York. Every other Friday on Morning Edition NHPRs Sam Evans-Brown tracks down answers to questions about the environment and outdoors for our listeners in a segment we call Ask Sam.. They're the generalists that made it through both the arrival of the Clovis people with their with their spears and then the Europeans with their guns. Today, their range stretches from the Yukon Territory in Canada along the western coast of the United States, all the way to the Southern Andes in Chile. I didn't see him online. They used to roam the entire continent, but have become extinct in most US states. Peter Biello: Rick I believe you did mention that that they do leave carcasses up in the tree from time to time but are there any other species known in New Hampshire to do this on a regular basis. I just stood there just a second and I came to a complete stop and then I ran away. So what those ranges. Sam Evans-Brown: And second the evidence required is is you know pretty pretty tough to gather. So the whole media hype about how scary mountain lions are should should go away immediately and that would be that I think the major thrust of educating folks about these casualties vs.. Sam Evans-Brown: Sam go ahead. Mountain Lions in NH. Peter Biello: So Rick seems like you agree that the tail is a big giveaway whether or not it's a mountain lion Absolutely. Just one quick point I think I think when we we talk about these conspiracy theories the real story is that fish and game is an agency that that is short on budget and staff. So give us a call now. Sunny today high temperatures low to mid 80s it'll be clear tonight overnight lows in the 50s for tomorrow sunshine with high temperatures mid to upper 80s. Chapter X, Predators, Panther (Mountain Lion) From History of NH Game and Furbearers by Helenette Silver, Research Clerk, NH Fish and Game Dept.
Mountain Lion | Squam Lakes Natural Science Center But I was riding a mountain bike not far from my house.
Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? Part II I've actually had to walk in on one or two now and look at what was going on and figured out what was going on. Patrick Tate: So I agree with what Sam said in part that their ability to go undetected for amount of time but ultimately it was detected. Enable JavaScript by changing your browser options, and then try again. So I just throwing that out there it's interesting. And there's there's no evidence of that cat's movement in that entire you know 12 hundred miles stretch of its journey. Really appreciate it. And what was really remarkable about the whole thing was I was maybe a half mile down on all buildings. Sam Evans-Brown: I just want to say the bang and word you just heard I think to me exemplifies why it's really hard to come up with with positive you know 100 percent certain evidence that you've that what you've got is a mountain lions. Peter Biello: Ok. So there's even debate about that very subject. Fear for others and those two polarizing opinions on the situation is what I believe brings out mystique and Sam you know I take kind of a long view on this. Not one picture of him online while the person meet with us.
'Like we did as kids': Horse makes snow angels with her owner in New When you talk about a bobcat Bobcat maybe 80 90 pounds and then a mountain lion could be between 130 and 180 pounds. Peter Biello: Yeah. We rely on readers like you to support the local, national, and international coverage on this website. Peter Biello: Sam I wanted to ask you a little bit about that first and then turn to Patrick Tate efficient game.
N.H. Residents Report Mountain Lion Sighting - NECN Patrick Tate: So the individuals can say that but for an agency that's based on science and what not to to go off with no evidence and then get into that giant debate and all these other issues and put credibility at risk I don't think that would be a great path to take. So now what's going on. Caller: Oh hi. Pat ruse and he was sampling doing DNA samples from cats in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. If you believe you have seen a mountain lion and want to report it to NH Fish and Game, please contact the Wildlife Division at (603) 271-2461 or wildlife@wildlife.nh.gov to request an observation report form. All of that remains unanswered but it is an extremely interesting question. Rick shaking his head so Rick now correct me please. So I know it's another unconfirmed report but you string enough of these together. From involving members in projects as local as cleaning up an area park or as far-reaching as bringing sight to the world's blind, Lions clubs have always . He said matter of fact I do. Ive received pictures of dogs at odd angles, says Tate. Patrick Tate: So one thing I'd say is DNA would definitely identify an animal animal's Mark line or not. So one thing I'll add we're talking about natural dispensers but talking with the conservation officer in the 1980s they recall going to a residence telling a person you can live here but your mountain lion can't. But no proof was offered. And Rick van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England. Do they travel. Caller: I cannot recall or see the tail in my in my image of it. Here it is. I really really enjoyed listening to this program so thank you all very much. Using DNA and physical evidence, state environmental officials said they determined that the animal. David Erler says some of them probably have. Sam Evans-Brown: But I mean the video I had been sent was you know a recording of a animal growling but it was in slow motion and when I asked the person why is this in slow motion the denied that it was so there's a lot of weird stuff that happens in regards to people claiming they've seen they've seen these things. So Michael follows with the question. As recently as 2011 there was one young male mountain lion that cruised all the way from the black hills of South Dakota, up over the Great Lakes, down through New Yorkgetting spotted all. I think that you probably are. Mountain Lion | Squam Lakes Natural Science Center All exhibit and hiking trails are CLOSED for the season. But are there mountain lions living in New Hampshire? I don't see the hoaxes anymore at that level. He played a pivotal role and he battled for recognition. I can't tell you what you saw but it sounds like a mountain lion. Peter Biello: From New Hampshire Public Radio I'm Peter Biello in for Lark Knoy and this is the exchange. Patrick Tate: No downward pressure at all I think actually Sean turned up and we found the evidence there a number of people would finally say finally we can put this debate to bed. There's no logic for why they'd be listed as an endangered species. Id like to hazard the explanation that we really, really want to see a mountain lion. Well let me ask maybe Pat and Rick about this. Caller: Absolutely. I'm sorry go ahead you're on the air. We rely on readers like you to support the local, national, and international coverage on this website. As I tried to get a picture of it so there was it was definitely we looked up all the pictures and it was definitely not a bobcat or anything else being it looked just like a mountain lion. And in fact in 2011 when it was announced that the eastern cougar was officially extinct the reason that announcement was made is because they said really that it never existed. How to Report a Possible Mountain Lion Sighting. Patrick Tate: Well. Caller: Hey guys how you doing. It's not a skinny rope like tail like a housecat. Do you want to see real, living mountain lions that do exist in New Hampshire. Each person had their own copy and now it was identify the trees the species of tree matched. Mark Elbroch doesnt think so. Yeah I did. Mountain lion or cat running across. And it's not really strong. 1957. They are the same thing. We mentioned that one cat that was hit by a car where it has it that it was a male looking for me. The DNA the DNA that they were able to pull from the cat suggested that it was a dispersed mountain lion that came. Chartered: 1973 . But if people are still seeing mountain lions, why is the state and federal government seeking to COVER IT UP!? And today we're talking about the mysterious elusive mountain line with folks who know something about it. And then just up behind it you know at about 11 o'clock on one side and whatever that would be on the other side it's black. And I think a lot of folks would like them to be around. So so they're just a very resilient species and they're pretty they're pretty neat.
New Hampshire's Mountain Lions | NH Wildlife They don't know the direction they're going. Peter Biello: Well Karl Jarvis a former reporter for The King's son Nile thank you very much for for calling in and sharing your perspective and to his point Patrick T. I mean yes we haven't met the scientific burden of proof here in New Hampshire as far as physical evidence is is concerned but is there room at Fish and Game For A kind of an informal nod to all of the people who have somehow convinced themselves and possibly some others that yeah there may be occasional sightings here. Mountain lions live in the state. Chartered 1973; Member of District 44-H; . Tonight, Sean McDonald investigates,. Ecosystem Management Consultants of New England, Ask Sam, and recently fielded question about mountain lions, 10 things to do in NH this weekend: Dartmouth Dance, Hamilton De Holanda & more, Turkish restaurant in the Upper Valley aims to help those affected by recent earthquakes, RFK Jr. tells NH crowd hes considering a presidential run, Epping woman pleads guilty to threatening Michigan election official in 2020, We also hear excerpts from an interview with, Read about the most recent cougar "sightings". Administrative Links. As recently as 2011 there was one young male mountain lion that cruised all the way from the black hills of South Dakota, up over the Great Lakes, down through New Yorkgetting spotted all along the waykilled a beaver near the Quabbin Reservoir in Central Massachusetts, left behind prints and DNA at that site, and then was hit by a car in Connecticut. Good morning guys. And I think this is a really interesting story for a couple of reasons one is that it proves what Pat was saying which that basically from New York state where its traces was really picked up on a game camera around Lake George all the way down to Connecticut there was numerous. Now Bobcat is a completely different species. It's good to talk to you. NHFG Wildlife Biologist Patrick Tate identifies this cat as a bobcat. I wanted to get your thoughts on the mystique of the mountain lion start with you Rick. I've collected scat samples I've got several in my collection. Give today. SUE Morse naturalist and science director for the organization keeping track. Theyve always said when we have verifiable evidence to say a mountain lion has been, is, or was in the state that wed acknowledge that and give that information out, says Pat Tate, the furbearer biologist with New Hampshire Fish and Game, who insists theres no conspiracy. 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. Had great trees behind it beautiful ferns on the ground so it brought me down on the site and the ferns on the ground matched. The book MAMMAL TRACKS & SIGN by Mark Elbroch has pictures of mountain lion scat found at a multiple beaver kill. Peter Biello: This is the exchange on an HP yard today we're talking about the mysterious elusive majestic Mystic Mountain Lion. So for our scientists to do the lumping and whatnot. Really appreciate you guys being here as well. John thanks. So I think the point that I just want to get across is that there is a very strong sense this here in the and not region that there is that there is some sort of mountain lion population how large it is how extensive it is. So Marty can you see what I'm getting at is the public sees different names and thinks that they're different animals but it's all the same animal. But the state always denies it, and none of us know why they deny it. Sam what's the incentive for the government to deny allegedly. We're going to talk a little bit more about habitat first but then we'll get into sightings. So here in New Hampshire when a person turns in something that the Department believes is possible mountain lion and believes it should be investigated further. Post your sightings and NH photos here! Pat do they typically just move around a lot. The second one was not only fresh but when I actually put my hand on it it was you know smelled like cat and I it's there's no denying a fresh mountain lions get if you can tell it every story that KOAT. Can you tell us about that story. Patrick Tate: So it's interesting it's brought up. The way that we define species has undergone a revolution with the advent of DNA testing. So that did it for me. Sam. Thanks for your call.
Windham Life and Times - November 15, 2019 John Holt's ideas were at first dismissed but he refused to be silent. They're very loyal to what the handler which makes them very dangerous to everyone else. Listeners we'd love to hear some of your thoughts on this. Well within there. So I did a bunch of research and all the documentation I found was there art are not any pieces of DNA of Eastern online. Well Is DNA the most reliable means we have of identifying whether or not what we saw is actually a mountain lion. Numerous scat and fur specimens have been turned in as part of mountain lion report investigations; DNA identification has shown these submitted samples to be from domestic dog, coyote, bobcat andraccoon. Peter Biello: The number is 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. Peter Biello: I did mention four feet nose to tail would be kind of small for a mountain lion. She quotes a biologist in Lyme New Hampshire who who is keeping two mountain lions himself so in the not too distant past in the early nineteen hundreds it was perhaps more common and still in Maine. So try to take photographs if you see something like this. Patrick Tate: Well I've never seen an Easter cougar so I can't say when I've handled these 10 cougars and whatnot.